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archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's

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girls real stories real answers to

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life's biggest supernatural mysteries

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and now for another exciting interview

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with Errol experts in this world and

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others here's your host paranormal

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researcher Patricia Baker on the one the

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welcome everyone to another exciting

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episode of Supernatural girls radio

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I'm your host Patricia Baker I am here

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with my co-host Patricia Kirkman pique

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all the way from Tucson how are you fake

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a I have just been melting all day it's

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been in the 90s today don't think that

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the weather knows that it's fall

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I just smells like it the trees the

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leaves are dropping like crazy but the

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poor plants don't know what to do I know

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you mean I had friends of mine telling

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me their roses are blooming mm-hmm their

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flowers are blooming here in New England

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and it's been very warm I'm not

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complaining because I know what's coming

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around the corner you know what but our

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plans are gonna die not knowing what to

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do oh what a show we have tonight yes we

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do my god Stan Gordon he is one of the

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golden oldies he has been researching

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years and he's with us tonight we are

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going to talk about all the stuff that

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he knows all about Kecksburg and Bigfoot

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and just incredible things incredible

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thing that only Stan knows so we're

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gonna bring him on in a few minutes but

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first first what's going on with the

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numbers what do we got going on with

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that well the numbers all I got to do is

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tell you this Halloween night is a 6

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which is all about family family type

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situations wanting things to be perfect

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so do-over see the youngsters because I

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found out that Halloween evening is the

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most dangerous for youngsters when it

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comes to traffic accidents oh no they

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have more children are damaged or

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injured or I'm not going to say the

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other word on Halloween Eve than at any

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other time Wow so definitely keep a

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close eye on your kids this Halloween I

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know other people have parties now

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it's going out trick-or-treating -

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unknown houses they just do everything

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in one central location which makes a

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lot of sense in today's world I think it

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makes a lot of sense because in the old

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days when people could go around in the

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neighborhoods and that was fine but the

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neighborhoods aren't the same anymore

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and when they started having candy was

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tampered with yeah things of that nature

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that's when the city started putting

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some of these things together which is

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and in one space it is it is and did so

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I'm looking forward to hearing about it

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for my six-year-old granddaughter she's

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already playing with her costume trying

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to figure out what Lord she's ready

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store in town everybody has fun and

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stays safe you also found some

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they use these products instead of

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pumpkins yeah turnip was what they use

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for it before the pumpkin was used they

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jack-o'-lantern today how funny

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to tell us well and bringing our

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some things and they're talking about in

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England of course there's with the death

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keeps walking the walls and are very

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much prevalent there but how many times

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the different people from that era they

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ghost sightings had to do in England

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with Henry's wife and nothing after that

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of the things ongoing we take a look at

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Mary the ship in the long beach

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that has many many shall we say ghosts

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and goblins involved there people that

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are seeing sightings of the people that

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worked on the ships they also see around

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the pool area they will see people in

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the old-fashioned bathing suits and

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dress and even though the pool is empty

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pool so I thought that is a little bit

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much how cool is that so yes it has a

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very heavily populated ship yes I

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believe Victoria gross takes people oh

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there has been and one of the things too

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to be on there he had his own place on

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board the ship and they can smell his

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cigars all the time they always know

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when he's when he's out and about but

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they receive phantom crews that go along

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with it walk in the decks and it's

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really incredible but you know one of

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the agents when they started having

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funerals its to put the spirits in the

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ground so that they know that it's exit

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that this person is dead they don't want

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it coming back so they figured by the

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funeral that let it know that it don't

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longer have right to come back and walk

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lying we do well that's so interesting

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check on him he was missing they

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teleportation this particular event but

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that's on our Facebook page which else

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that it is you know one thing I was

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track and they ended up having the fire

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at the hotel that took out the third

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floor but when the people that were

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money and amp and guns etc in it so he

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quite impressive he was trained as an

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anyways they don't have to it and and if

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you are hearing it please let us know in

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the chat room go to IR and chat let us

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know and if you have any questions for

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also so Stan worked in the advanced

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subject and others

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incidents at the age of 10 in 1959 and

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telephone UFO sighting report

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Research Institute of Pittsburgh so he

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began his field investigations of UFOs

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an amazing case so he established a UFO

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hotline for the public to report UFO

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sightings for him to investigate he's

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been involved in many television

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productions he has a number of books

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now he is the author of really

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mysterious Pennsylvania silent invasion

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the Pennsylvania UFO Bigfoot case book

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Pennsylvania's unknown creatures so

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the second will go away so Stan welcome

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to the show thanks for having me on our

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so my goodness you have everything that

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want it we want to know it all so where

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which event do you want to start with

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Kecksburg or do you want to start with

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your triangle of events over there which

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Halloween season how how I got involved

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the Halloween season it was in 1959 at

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my tenth birthday my parents gave me an

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AM radio as a birthday gift and I happen

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to be tuning around the radio dial that

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night because of Halloween there were

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some radio shows talking about haunted

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houses and flying saucers and strange

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things and I was a curious ten-year-old

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these stories up they telling the truth

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local Greensburg library right all the

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breaking on the news that afternoon or

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that evening and I began to go out into

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the field to investigate all kind of

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phenomena after that and I've been doing

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still very busy getting a lot of reports

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coming in here pretty much continuously

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my hard line has never stopped bringing

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on out there it is now please tell

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everybody your website so they'll know

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how to contact you they can just go to

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of course WW Stan Gordon Geor do n dot

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info INF oh so it's Stan Gordon thought

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info terrific terrific so you are in

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love with the paranormal just like we

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are and that's why we love having you on

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now

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tell us for Tex burg that was huge and

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it was one of our favorite cases so much

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went on during that time there was a lot

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of cover-up but there were a lot of

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witnesses so it was hard to cover it up

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right

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yeah we well we could talk literally for

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days about what I've uncovered about

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Kecksburg and you know yeah well 16

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wouldn't happened as I mentioned and how

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it all began it was a Thursday December

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9th 1965 and I was listening to the the

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major radio station Pittsburgh as night

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KDKA they had a very well-known talk

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radio show called contact on and the

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host of our program had a personal I

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knew I wanted to listen to you might

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recognize his name was Frank Edwards who

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was a journalist he had written some

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books on strange happening so I wanted

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to tune in to listen to that radio show

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and as we're listening interestingly

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pretty much the entire program was

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concentrating on breaking news of this

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brilliant fireball this fiery object was

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seen from Ontario Canada / Michigan Ohio

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and Pennsylvania and apparently that

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object came in over the Greater pizza

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about 4:47 p.m. that afternoon just

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getting dark in this area and multitudes

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of people saw this object and they were

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calling the police and the radio and TV

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and newspapers reporting this and it was

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fascinating just hear what was going on

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so they were interviewing eyewitnesses

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they're interviewing reporters or up the

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readings of breaking news wire stories

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that are coming across about the

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sightings and as the evening went on the

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things got even more interesting I can

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remember those days very well I was

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running back and forth out from the

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living room with a black-and-white

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console TV was to the radio in the other

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room try to get all the latest reports

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and then ktkt me in Pittsburgh was

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breaking in that evening with live

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reports that the military was now

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arriving in a Kecksburg area to search

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for an unidentified flying object so it

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was a very intriguing night I wasn't

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driving it I had no way to get out there

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stayed up late and I couldn't wait to

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get up next morning go to local

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newsstands he was in the news the local

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newspapers and there it was it was the

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headlines and all the local papers and

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was making national news our local paper

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the Greens retributive you had two

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editions the early morning Edition had

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army ropes off area unidentified flying

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object falls in her Kecksburg and very

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interesting account there was one of the

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reporter Bob Gaddy was there that

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evening and there were other reporters

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also from the trip on the scene and

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indicated that something apparently did

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fall down until the wooded ravine that

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no one was being a lot anywhere near the

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object that the area was cordoned off on

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the orders of the US Army and the State

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Police that they were waiting the

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arrival of civilian scientists and army

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engineers to examine whatever had fallen

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there was also discussion that there was

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considerations as they may have been

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radioactive well thought there was a

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royal interesting account the later

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edition of the newspaper comes out with

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a number of different stories including

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one that immediately clawed my eye which

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there was a search to early morning

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hours but absolutely nothing was

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and that officially they were saying it

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was his people's imagination that they

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had seen a bright meteor in the sky but

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nothing had fallen to the ground so now

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we're you know based on that report that

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was was given that this was the real

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deal this was it

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mmm because they wouldn't have tried to

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cover it up if it wasn't well you know

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the next day again

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you hear this you hear the media report

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and there was so much we did not know at

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the time I mean there was so few names

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on the paper I tried to follow up the

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next day I was writing down everything I

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could and it was appeared over weeks and

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months and years that I began to get a

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lot of new information on the case and I

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began occasion I would find somebody who

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was involved I would get information

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relatives and neighbors and friends of

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people who were involved and by the

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1980s I had a lot of information which

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suggests that there was a lot more to

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the story than anybody knew about so we

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really began to do a very detailed

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investigation and since then I've

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interviewed hundreds of people I've lost

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track many hundreds of people who have

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information on the case I tracked down

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the reporters who are on the scene to

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volunteer firemen estate police military

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sources and I mean there is absolutely

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no doubt whatsoever that something fell

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from the sky and the military came and

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recovered it and it's a fascinating

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story and and what we didn't know at

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that time was that this object whatever

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it was it was moving relatively slowly

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it was making change in direction along

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its trajectory along its path the people

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who saw it come down in the woods that

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afternoon said it did not come down at a

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high rate of speed such as you would

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have for example with re-entry of space

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debris or our meteor coming in then I

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came down almost like a medic controlled

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landing but we know it crashed through

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the trees it knock trees over broke the

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top trees out we discovered that

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trajectory and that path of damage in

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1980s and and what we found out was that

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some of the local people soon after it

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fell went down into the wooded ravine

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and they came across as large

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talak acorn shaped objects mi bear in

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the ground and some of these people were

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only a few feet away from it and this

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thing was kind of a big arc of a big

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acorn shaped thing maybe 10 to 12 feet

419
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or more legs about 8 to 10 feet in

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diameter it's one solid piece of metal

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off gold bronze color

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there's no rivet marks no seams no

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fuselage no windows the wings on the

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raised up back like you'd have on an

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acorn witnesses who were close to it

426
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said door raised up markings off the

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surface they look more like some type of

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symbols and writing and they're luckily

429
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one of the key witnesses because of his

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family background you what they

431
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volunteer farm at the time he stood on a

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few feet away from and he said what he

433
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saw because he was Murray was seeing

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Russian or Cyrillic and he said that's

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not what it was and in fact from his

436
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memory over the years he spent time in

437
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libraries looking up ancient writings he

438
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said the closest thing he could recall

439
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:46,570
would be someone anxious Gyptian

440
00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:53,679
hieroglyphics no kidding yeah and

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there's absolutely no doubt that the

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military was there I mean it made

443
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national news about the military being

444
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there

445
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I interviewed reporters who either

446
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:03,100
interacted with a military or solid

447
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military side military vehicles hundreds

448
00:20:10,349 --> 00:20:08,559
of people that night after hearing the

449
00:20:12,299 --> 00:20:10,359
radio TV broadcasts of all around

450
00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:12,309
Pittsburgh about a UFO falling they

451
00:20:16,049 --> 00:20:14,230
descended on the small little farming

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community that try to get a look at

453
00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:18,460
things this thing down in the woods but

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by the time one of those people got out

455
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there the area was already cordoned off

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why the roads were being shut down

457
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hundreds of people were coming in I mean

458
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it was an amazing account for so many

459
00:20:34,129 --> 00:20:31,119
different people but I also found out

460
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that there were a number of people I

461
00:20:38,489 --> 00:20:36,399
should say this first you had the local

462
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people right after the object fell went

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down the woods then later he had

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volunteer firemen coming in who were

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getting reports that death may have been

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a possible plane crash so they were

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setting up a search and a large wooded

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area of course not aware that other

469
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people already went down on the woods

470
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they were looking for a downed aircraft

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but those teams came across the object

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and then you had the military come in

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and when they got in that everybody was

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thrown out of the area what the military

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did know was that there were people who

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had already been down there and there

477
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were some people actually hiding down on

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the ridge which we were able to find um

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some and they were watching a military

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operation now they were how their

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loaders say on the flatbed truck you

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couldn't keep the secret then very well

483
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good they very well could they I mean

484
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that's it that's great that there are

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people hiding that people could see it

486
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and you have so many witnesses but let

487
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me ask you this stand because you've

488
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done such a thorough investigation over

489
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so many years have you been told to stop

490
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have you been told to back off have you

491
00:21:54,570 --> 00:21:51,429
been told not to talk about this uh no I

492
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have not and it may be well because I've

493
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been in the public eye for years and

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years of investigating this that there

495
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are so many people who are involved so

496
00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:02,470
what's interesting about the case is

497
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while a number of people have gone

498
00:22:10,649 --> 00:22:08,859
public about this you know over the

499
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years and and on some of the different

500
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TV shows and radio shows with me the

501
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majority people I've interviewed have

502
00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:16,749
still never gone public unfortunately

503
00:22:21,450 --> 00:22:18,999
many of are now deceased many of those

504
00:22:24,060 --> 00:22:21,460
witnesses who were involved at that time

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pad were kids or teenagers well they

506
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later grew up to be educators and police

507
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officers CEOs engineers all kind of you

508
00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:34,629
know professional people one was even

509
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the district attorney and for various

510
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reasons they didn't want to go public

511
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now some of these people after they

512
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retired they did provide me more

513
00:22:48,419 --> 00:22:45,599
information and some did go public but

514
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after the event came out the next day in

515
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a paper I mean most of these people just

516
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kept her mouth shut they talked to a few

517
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friends and relatives and neighbors but

518
00:22:58,289 --> 00:22:56,379
that was it they never came forward

519
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because the government said nothing had

520
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fallen they knew was thought with what

521
00:23:05,849 --> 00:23:02,769
happened and they just kept quiet for

522
00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:05,859
years and years so it wasn't easy to

523
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:07,990
find a lot of these people I mean

524
00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:10,000
these people were not forthcoming it's

525
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because I got kept even anonymous tips

526
00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:14,410
and we followed up and found some of

527
00:23:18,290 --> 00:23:15,940
these people but a lot of these people

528
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:18,300
just decide to keep their mouth shut

529
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:21,130
exactly well you can see why I mean it's

530
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:23,110
not a lot of upside to sharing this

531
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:24,760
information especially when the media is

532
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:28,210
that it didn't happen but what about I'm

533
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,530
sorry go ahead pika no I'm just gonna

534
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:31,600
ask if intimidation was used against

535
00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:38,050
those people remember there were so many

536
00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:40,870
people involved no way that they could

537
00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:43,300
follow up and track down all those

538
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:44,980
people who were out there involved with

539
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:47,050
the incident but there were some

540
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:49,330
individuals we talk to their families

541
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:51,280
I've got information over here some

542
00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:53,290
relatives of people who believe that

543
00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:55,630
somebody did intimidate some of the

544
00:24:01,140 --> 00:23:57,220
people who knew him it was involved at

545
00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:01,150
the time there's a lot of interesting

546
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:03,400
aspects in this case probably one of the

547
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:04,809
most interesting because it's so well

548
00:24:08,220 --> 00:24:06,490
document in fact today I just happen to

549
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:08,230
be a vet tonight and I saw one of those

550
00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:10,390
prime ma witnesses who happen to be

551
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:13,720
there today when I walked in but the

552
00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:15,970
first reporter that we know on the scene

553
00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:17,980
was the late John Murphy who was the

554
00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:20,350
news director at the local whjb radio

555
00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:22,630
station which was the prime news outlet

556
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,860
back in 65 and he was on another

557
00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:28,480
incident that afternoon when he got a

558
00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:30,460
radio call to go out to route 30 east

559
00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:32,350
that there have been a reported an

560
00:24:37,530 --> 00:24:34,750
explosion in the sky and he went out

561
00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:37,540
there and he didn't see anything and he

562
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,790
went into the station by then the

563
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:41,440
phone's ringing off the hook at the

564
00:24:46,169 --> 00:24:42,730
radio station about all these people

565
00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:46,179
calling in about it and he was doing the

566
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:49,540
6:30 evening news and it was right

567
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:53,410
around that time that a caller reported

568
00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:55,450
in there was actually the mother of a

569
00:24:59,490 --> 00:24:57,820
young boy who had seen the object going

570
00:25:01,500 --> 00:24:59,500
down and told them that that thing that

571
00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:01,510
they're looking for apparently fell in a

572
00:25:03,780 --> 00:25:03,190
wooded area not too far from where they

573
00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:03,790
lived

574
00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:06,990
which would be outside of Kecksburg and

575
00:25:11,490 --> 00:25:09,580
so Murphy took all the information down

576
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:11,500
called the State Police gave them the

577
00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:12,850
information then the area at the

578
00:25:19,049 --> 00:25:16,830
Kecksburg well there was a lot of

579
00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:19,059
information was never released publicly

580
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:21,880
at the time from him or others

581
00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:24,760
he actually went on to produce a very

582
00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:27,430
informative special radio show called

583
00:25:32,610 --> 00:25:30,040
object in the woods that was released

584
00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:32,620
about a week later in a censored fashion

585
00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:35,260
but when I what we found it is a night I

586
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:37,180
did a documentary I want to film or for

587
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:38,650
about this called Kecksburg and told

588
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:41,410
story which is still out there and I

589
00:25:44,730 --> 00:25:43,510
interviewed Murphy's wife and several

590
00:25:45,870 --> 00:25:44,740
the people that worked at the radio

591
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:45,880
station with him

592
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:49,030
and what was not made public was the

593
00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:51,310
fact that apparently he got down into

594
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:53,140
the woods before the State Police Fire

595
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:54,940
Marshal another investigator arrived on

596
00:25:59,310 --> 00:25:57,730
the scene he was in radio contact with

597
00:26:01,380 --> 00:25:59,320
his wife and some of the other people

598
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:01,390
and he came up out of the woods and he

599
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:02,890
told them that he had gone down in the

600
00:26:07,410 --> 00:26:05,230
woods he had seen the object he had

601
00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:07,420
taken pictures of it then had strange

602
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:11,800
markings on it at some point the film in

603
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:13,750
his camera was confiscated by some of

604
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,880
the authorities on the scene apparently

605
00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:17,440
had another role in that they didn't

606
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:22,030
know about two people who had seen the

607
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:23,770
black-and-white pictures at that time

608
00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:26,760
those pictures all vanish we never saw

609
00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:30,100
his no Sarah went away but anyhow what

610
00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:32,560
we also found out was as he's preparing

611
00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:35,140
this radio documentary into the radio

612
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:37,540
station these apparently government men

613
00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:40,210
came in one day and asked for him they

614
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,190
went in to up one of the studio rooms

615
00:26:47,070 --> 00:26:44,080
and talked there for quite a while and

616
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:47,080
apparently when they left he Sean came

617
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,110
out and he was very very upset and had

618
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:52,240
told one of the managers of these men

619
00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:54,610
had confiscated the voice interviews he

620
00:26:59,070 --> 00:26:56,200
did with witnesses which would have been

621
00:27:01,950 --> 00:26:59,080
on realreal at that time and so they

622
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:01,960
later broadcast that in a censored

623
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:05,320
fashion and all later on I mean a period

624
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:08,350
of time soon after here is his biggest

625
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:11,770
story it was a huge story he was doing

626
00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:14,170
auto research on it and all of a sudden

627
00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:15,670
he just didn't want to talk about it

628
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:17,800
anymore and all his notes always

629
00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:19,930
pictured all that stuff vanished and

630
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:21,100
nobody ever saw it again

631
00:27:25,170 --> 00:27:23,110
so something apparently happened at that

632
00:27:27,930 --> 00:27:25,180
time period and there were other people

633
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:27,940
that we heard about that there was

634
00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:31,750
pressure put on them as well and just to

635
00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:33,400
give you another little tidbit about it

636
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:35,800
because it would fit into the

637
00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:38,030
right after we did the unsolved

638
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:39,920
mysteries TV show in 1990 it was a

639
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:43,190
season premiere on this case dad opened

640
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:45,770
up for a huge amount of new information

641
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:47,990
so many people were contacting me who

642
00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:50,450
used to live in the area in 65 who have

643
00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:52,580
been involved there were other many

644
00:27:57,670 --> 00:27:54,590
other sources of contact me some were

645
00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:57,680
anonymous tips one fell in particular

646
00:28:03,010 --> 00:27:59,660
called me and our members name was Myron

647
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,020
he's now deceased and Myron told me he

648
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:05,600
said I see that it's now on TV I guess

649
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:07,490
I'm allowed to talk about it and I said

650
00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:08,900
what are you talking about my own he

651
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:11,150
said we said well said I worked for a

652
00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:15,530
large supply house in Ohio and when a

653
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:17,420
few days two or three days after the

654
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:19,490
object fell in Pennsylvania and it was

655
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:20,690
brought to wright-patterson Air Force

656
00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:25,130
Base he said I worked for the special

657
00:28:31,570 --> 00:28:27,920
supply house and a Navy officer came to

658
00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:31,580
the base came to the office and ordered

659
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,320
a large supply of a special type of

660
00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:35,840
glazed engineering brick to be shipped

661
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:40,070
to wright-patterson and so anyhow it was

662
00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:42,530
a fascinating story there was the second

663
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:44,840
truck driver involved who initially

664
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:47,840
refused to talk but later he did he did

665
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:50,510
talk to the late Leonard Stringfield who

666
00:28:55,570 --> 00:28:53,570
were close with me and myself and

667
00:28:58,530 --> 00:28:55,580
confirmed the fact that he was there the

668
00:29:02,320 --> 00:28:58,540
first day with the first load of bricks

669
00:29:04,570 --> 00:29:02,330
using his breakfast for well apparently

670
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,580
they were sealing this thing up inside

671
00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:06,320
of a large warehouse building at

672
00:29:11,530 --> 00:29:08,660
wright-patterson they were imposing it

673
00:29:15,850 --> 00:29:11,540
in this and inside of this other

674
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:15,860
building and anyhow when the first truck

675
00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:17,810
driver got there he saw the military

676
00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:21,080
flatbed trailer with the tarps object on

677
00:29:25,210 --> 00:29:23,630
it that day the next day when he and

678
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:25,220
Meyer and returned and there was an

679
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:27,890
officer took him into the base told him

680
00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:30,290
do your job don't be looking around

681
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:33,470
well Myron was the curious type when

682
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,810
they got there by the way flatbed

683
00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:38,240
trailer was still there the tarp was

684
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:40,190
laying over it but the object was gone

685
00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:43,220
so what he sees he sees these guys are

686
00:29:47,910 --> 00:29:46,190
white coveralls with sidearms and first

687
00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:47,920
type of protective clothing

688
00:29:52,650 --> 00:29:50,140
and there periodically changing their

689
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:52,660
outer clothing and he wonder what's

690
00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:54,550
going on big building and when he didn't

691
00:29:58,860 --> 00:29:56,380
see anybody around he ran into the

692
00:29:59,670 --> 00:29:58,870
entrance and looked inside and up on the

693
00:30:02,430 --> 00:29:59,680
scaffolding

694
00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:02,440
here's his big metallic acorn shaped

695
00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:04,600
object with ladders on it and the

696
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:07,780
lighting was not real good and you know

697
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:09,790
gave us a very detailed account but they

698
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:11,530
finally found they thought at first you

699
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:12,550
must have been cleared

700
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:14,770
because usually ask some questions and

701
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:16,240
when they realized that he wasn't

702
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:18,790
cleared they told him forget about

703
00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:21,310
everything you've seen we're gonna throw

704
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:24,280
you in jail and throw away the keys 20

705
00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:25,750
years this will all be public knowledge

706
00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:27,940
and of course whatever happened now of

707
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,540
course now sits hi we're gonna take a

708
00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:34,000
very short commercial break we'll be

709
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:35,740
right back we're gonna follow up with

710
00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:38,290
the Kecksburg story and more this is

711
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:40,060
great stuff everybody we are speaking

712
00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:43,450
with Stan Gordon tonight stay tuned

713
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:50,230
we'll be right back welcome back

714
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:52,510
everyone to supernatural girls radio I'm

715
00:30:58,140 --> 00:30:54,760
your host Patricia Baker here with my

716
00:31:00,210 --> 00:30:58,150
co-host from Tucson pk Patricia Kirkman

717
00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:00,220
comm is where you want to go if you want

718
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:01,630
your numbers read you want to know

719
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:04,450
what's coming up when may I add

720
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:07,870
something else to this please about your

721
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:10,180
dreams and to get a reading from you my

722
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:12,070
dear because you are excellent at what

723
00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:15,610
you do hey so just spend more time

724
00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:19,390
talking about what you do yes well we're

725
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:21,580
both preeminent readers and we're happy

726
00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:22,870
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727
00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:25,990
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728
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:29,920
or today so yes Patricia Kirkman comm

729
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:53,950
and you can find me at paes164.com her

730
00:32:01,039 --> 00:31:59,410
number 8 for fast dial okay happy to

731
00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:01,049
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732
00:32:05,299 --> 00:32:03,389
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733
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:05,309
because we know these are tumultuous

734
00:32:09,619 --> 00:32:07,049
times and we're here to give guidance

735
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:09,629
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736
00:32:13,460 --> 00:32:11,580
us anytime you'd like and again we're

737
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:13,470
both to be found on the supernatural

738
00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:18,299
Girls website now tonight we have Dan

739
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:21,590
Gordon he is the man I'm telling you for

740
00:32:26,269 --> 00:32:24,210
all kinds of supernatural investigations

741
00:32:27,409 --> 00:32:26,279
a great researcher who were honored to

742
00:32:29,629 --> 00:32:27,419
have on our show tonight

743
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:29,639
if you have a question for Stan you can

744
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:32,700
write it in our chat room I are in chat

745
00:32:38,509 --> 00:32:35,940
com that's I are in chat comm we will

746
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:38,519
ask the question on your behalf Stan

747
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:41,129
will be happy to answer it and oh my god

748
00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:43,049
guys someone should talk about let's get

749
00:32:48,169 --> 00:32:45,960
back to my Hren now off the air we

750
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,179
always knock off the air and this time

751
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:49,919
we were talking about dear Myron who is

752
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:53,220
passed on but he did tell you Stan that

753
00:32:58,279 --> 00:32:56,820
he saw an alien body can you tell us a

754
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:58,289
little bit about that I know it's a big

755
00:33:03,139 --> 00:33:00,179
long story but at least tell people a

756
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:03,149
little bit about what he saw well we

757
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:05,220
can't say we can't say for sure it's an

758
00:33:12,019 --> 00:33:08,070
alien body but he saw something odd when

759
00:33:13,369 --> 00:33:12,029
I went I went to interview him 1996 I

760
00:33:15,379 --> 00:33:13,379
believe was when I was filming my

761
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:15,389
Kecksburg the untold story documentary

762
00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:19,080
and when we got there to interview him

763
00:33:24,259 --> 00:33:20,909
it was apparent his health was not good

764
00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:24,269
and he indicated that he said he wanted

765
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:25,830
to tell me something had not told me

766
00:33:29,479 --> 00:33:27,809
before he said he talked to his son

767
00:33:30,979 --> 00:33:29,489
about the night before and he said the

768
00:33:32,479 --> 00:33:30,989
son said why he could bother and tell

769
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:32,489
him he said because I may not be here

770
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,710
tomorrow one another whole story and he

771
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,080
went on to tell me that when he went

772
00:33:42,139 --> 00:33:39,600
into that building that day and they saw

773
00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:42,149
the object up on the scaffolding he said

774
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:44,190
the lighting was not real good but there

775
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:46,230
was a workbench on their work table and

776
00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:49,529
on that workbench it was a small body it

777
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:51,419
was covered with a white cloth a white

778
00:33:56,899 --> 00:33:54,419
sheet and he said he could not see a lot

779
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:56,909
of detail all he could see was I believe

780
00:34:02,119 --> 00:33:59,580
was a left arm aim down and they could

781
00:34:04,999 --> 00:34:02,129
see three fingers but he said the skin

782
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:05,009
looked lizard-like and that's all he

783
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:06,450
could see and I asked him many many

784
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:08,970
times to give me more detail said that's

785
00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:11,250
all I could possibly see well that was

786
00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:13,800
interesting and was years

787
00:34:18,919 --> 00:34:16,500
later that I began to get some other

788
00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:18,929
information and and I don't have time we

789
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:20,190
don't have time to get into this because

790
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:21,870
I know you want to get into solve some

791
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,820
other aspects of a lot of weird things

792
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:26,220
that go on around here but mother with

793
00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:26,730
us

794
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:29,790
so we found years later who reluctantly

795
00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:31,770
told me about how he was hiding down in

796
00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:35,790
the woods and indicated that he was

797
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:37,560
there when the military was recovering

798
00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:41,520
the object and that there was a on the

799
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:44,640
object himself on itself he saw what

800
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:46,530
appeared to be a hatch open in the front

801
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:49,800
and a very long elastic arm come out of

802
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:53,010
it and there's other reports I have from

803
00:34:56,660 --> 00:34:54,450
other people which suggest the

804
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:56,670
possibility that there may have been

805
00:35:02,240 --> 00:34:58,740
someone or something to sour the object

806
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:02,250
now I keep an open mind and I'm always

807
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,010
skeptical until I have more information

808
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:06,780
but I feel that some of these people

809
00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:08,070
were telling me the best are knowledge

810
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:09,180
what they were telling me to be the

811
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:11,130
truth the question is what did they see

812
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:15,290
you know when something very unusual or

813
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:18,000
couldn't is let's speculate what what if

814
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:20,310
it was a human passenger whether it was

815
00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:23,310
some type of accident within the object

816
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:26,670
and their body was distorted I'm just

817
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,740
thinking of all kind of possibilities

818
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:31,200
because we just don't know it's a very

819
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,170
interesting aspect of the story and it

820
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:35,760
just indicates there may be a lot more

821
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:38,370
to this any of us realize well I hope

822
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:40,470
that someone who knows more will contact

823
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:42,840
you stamps because we deserve to know

824
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:45,420
the truth and you're certainly an expert

825
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:47,160
at getting to the bottom of it all this

826
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:49,470
is the first we've heard about a

827
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:53,640
possible live or dead entity we've

828
00:35:57,980 --> 00:35:56,310
associated with this object so again

829
00:36:00,500 --> 00:35:57,990
you're kind of giving us some breaking

830
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:00,510
news here given your great research

831
00:36:05,570 --> 00:36:02,670
abilities and the fact that these people

832
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:05,580
have talked to you and this is very very

833
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:07,950
fascinating and I wonder was this long

834
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:10,530
arm that they saw come out of the

835
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:12,510
spaceship was does that mean that that

836
00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:14,910
entity was alive at the time and then

837
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:16,920
died later I mean we can only speculate

838
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:19,560
at this point but I hope whoever knows

839
00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:22,410
more I hope and pray they will contact

840
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:25,350
you and again your website Stan Gordon

841
00:36:29,660 --> 00:36:27,630
dot info

842
00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:29,670
so for people that want to contact Stan

843
00:36:36,289 --> 00:36:32,339
that's the website to go to Stan Gordon

844
00:36:36,799 --> 00:36:36,299
dot info so I know I've got so much more

845
00:36:39,259 --> 00:36:36,809
to tell us

846
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:39,269
I'm sorry Stan go ahead oh god I was

847
00:36:43,099 --> 00:36:41,700
gonna say my email and phone and all the

848
00:36:46,009 --> 00:36:43,109
information is on the website to reach

849
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:46,019
me oh great that's great I hope people

850
00:36:50,029 --> 00:36:47,729
will reach out to you have real

851
00:36:52,759 --> 00:36:50,039
information about this case and others

852
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:52,769
so now you are telling us off the air

853
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:54,660
that you have investigated some

854
00:37:02,089 --> 00:36:58,380
fascinating cases of Bigfoot and um most

855
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:02,099
together tell us about this okay well I

856
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:03,900
have to give a little background and go

857
00:37:09,499 --> 00:37:05,880
I have to bear with me because it's dad

858
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:09,509
but I need to know about it 1970 let me

859
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:12,660
go back over further 1970 I had found

860
00:37:15,739 --> 00:37:14,190
that the first of three volunteer

861
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:15,749
research groups and that was because

862
00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:18,420
when my heart line became public in 1969

863
00:37:24,019 --> 00:37:21,180
the phone in my home was ringing off the

864
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:24,029
hook about anything unusual calls are

865
00:37:29,150 --> 00:37:25,890
coming in not only about UFOs but

866
00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:29,160
haunted houses UFOs anything strange

867
00:37:33,529 --> 00:37:31,619
unusual people are calling in it was a

868
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:33,539
lot more than I could handle on my own

869
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,210
so it was my goal to establish a

870
00:37:41,479 --> 00:37:38,640
research group to go out to investigate

871
00:37:43,249 --> 00:37:41,489
these reports so in 1970 I founded the

872
00:37:44,839 --> 00:37:43,259
first of three groups that was called

873
00:37:47,299 --> 00:37:44,849
the West Warren County or for a study

874
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:47,309
group we're about 30 miles east of

875
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,410
Pittsburgh and we started out quite

876
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:51,359
small and moved into the Pittsburgh area

877
00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,410
and I was even surprised who I got

878
00:38:00,499 --> 00:37:57,900
involved I had scientists and engineers

879
00:38:03,049 --> 00:38:00,509
and technicians from from Westinghouse

880
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:03,059
from Gulf research from Alcoa there were

881
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,249
people from carnism universities I had

882
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,440
police officers I had former military

883
00:38:11,779 --> 00:38:09,599
intelligence people we're all doing this

884
00:38:14,029 --> 00:38:11,789
around our full-time jobs as volunteers

885
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:14,039
and I had it set up to respond the case

886
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:16,890
of 24 hours a day when my electronics

887
00:38:21,620 --> 00:38:19,619
background I set up an elaborate radio

888
00:38:24,229 --> 00:38:21,630
communication center and a QA radio

889
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:24,239
dispatch system in my home so we could

890
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:25,710
dispatch some of the investigators out

891
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:29,849
to the scene by 1973 we had expanded the

892
00:38:34,789 --> 00:38:31,910
cover of the state of Pennsylvania and

893
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:34,799
even to our surprise we begin to get

894
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:37,529
referrals from the media from the State

895
00:38:42,190 --> 00:38:39,470
Police and we are just being

896
00:38:46,089 --> 00:38:42,200
very very actively always busy with

897
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:46,099
reports but 1973 comes around and we

898
00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:48,920
have the biggest UFO outbreak ever

899
00:38:52,839 --> 00:38:51,319
recorded and then we have the biggest

900
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:52,849
Bigfoot outbreak has that ever happened

901
00:38:58,839 --> 00:38:56,690
was documented might recall that the

902
00:39:02,589 --> 00:38:58,849
United States experienced a massive wave

903
00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:02,599
in the fall of 1973 those making a lot

904
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:04,819
of national news at the time but here in

905
00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:07,220
Pennsylvania it began the first day of

906
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:09,380
the year and didn't end to the last day

907
00:39:13,809 --> 00:39:11,390
of the year there were hundreds and

908
00:39:15,849 --> 00:39:13,819
hundreds of UFO reports coming in and

909
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:15,859
many of these were not lights in the sky

910
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:18,740
they were large structured craft low to

911
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:19,640
the ground

912
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:21,530
hovering over roads sightings on the

913
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:24,410
Pennsylvania Turnpike harboring rumors

914
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:27,049
landing reports I mean we were out there

915
00:39:31,539 --> 00:39:29,510
day and they and back in those days it

916
00:39:33,339 --> 00:39:31,549
was making a lot of news locally and

917
00:39:38,859 --> 00:39:33,349
nationally on the sightings and our

918
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:38,869
investigations and so 1973 in the summer

919
00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:41,510
we have this massive Bigfoot outbreak

920
00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:44,059
and it all began actually only a few

921
00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:45,980
miles from where I live in a in a very

922
00:39:51,069 --> 00:39:49,670
rural area at that time and a relative

923
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:51,079
called me and said you need to talk to

924
00:39:56,049 --> 00:39:53,450
this person this incident happened him

925
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,059
it was July 31st of 73 it was in the

926
00:40:00,789 --> 00:39:58,400
bathroom shaving because he always got

927
00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:00,799
up early for work it was a warm night he

928
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,270
has a bathroom window open with the

929
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:04,400
screen in began to smell this funny

930
00:40:08,799 --> 00:40:07,130
rotten odor turned around we looked in

931
00:40:15,309 --> 00:40:08,809
the window and here's these two years

932
00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:15,319
glowing red eyes staring at him there

933
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:16,760
were dogs behind the house but they

934
00:40:20,049 --> 00:40:18,170
weren't making a sound which he thought

935
00:40:22,329 --> 00:40:20,059
boy that's really unusual the other

936
00:40:23,799 --> 00:40:22,339
relatives I smelled the funny odor they

937
00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:23,809
said it smelled like rotten eggs or

938
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:26,180
sulfur they whatever was in the window

939
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:28,250
was gone so when I went out to interview

940
00:40:32,289 --> 00:40:29,930
him a week later because I didn't get to

941
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:32,299
get a call to a week later he was still

942
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:34,670
pretty shook up and I found out that

943
00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:36,529
several weeks before some of the local

944
00:40:40,299 --> 00:40:38,180
boys had taken a shortcut over to the

945
00:40:42,279 --> 00:40:40,309
local mall which was close by through

946
00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:42,289
the woods they heard a commotion in the

947
00:40:46,539 --> 00:40:44,270
woods they thought it was a deer began

948
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:46,549
to throw some rocks him and here comes

949
00:40:53,819 --> 00:40:49,250
the 7 8 foot tall hairy creature with

950
00:41:00,339 --> 00:40:56,170
and they probably had to change their

951
00:41:02,289 --> 00:41:00,349
pants after that Wow almost after what

952
00:41:03,609 --> 00:41:02,299
we found up there so some of the kids

953
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:03,619
follow me up we'll look I'm looking

954
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:06,049
around in the area and I remember up on

955
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:08,690
that hill the ground conditions were not

956
00:41:12,789 --> 00:41:10,609
real good and I stood stood around for a

957
00:41:14,259 --> 00:41:12,799
while check the area out nothing was

958
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:14,269
there about ready to leave I have to

959
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:17,359
look down there was a partial track and

960
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:19,249
then a complete footprint of the

961
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:20,660
strangest looking thing I'd ever seen

962
00:41:27,309 --> 00:41:24,170
and it was 13 inches long 8 inches wide

963
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:27,319
but clearly three toed and the kids came

964
00:41:31,569 --> 00:41:28,970
over and said what kind of animal could

965
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,579
make a footprint like that so I got on

966
00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:33,680
the radio called one of my sizes he came

967
00:41:37,779 --> 00:41:35,630
out and we took photographs and measures

968
00:41:39,099 --> 00:41:37,789
and made a cast and while we were out

969
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,109
there in the field we got a radio call

970
00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:42,079
to one of our investigators right almost

971
00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:43,880
between the pennsylvania ohio line that

972
00:41:47,710 --> 00:41:45,470
morning investigating the case of

973
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:47,720
something 9-foot tall was looking in a

974
00:41:51,999 --> 00:41:49,430
structure and a police found large

975
00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:52,009
footprints up there so this started this

976
00:41:57,489 --> 00:41:54,440
massive Bigfoot wait the went on for

977
00:41:59,170 --> 00:41:57,499
weeks and months at the 1974 and it was

978
00:42:01,359 --> 00:41:59,180
making a tremendous amount of local

979
00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:01,369
national news for weeks and miik weeks

980
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:03,739
and many of the Bigfoot sightings were

981
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:06,230
not at night many are more in daylight

982
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:09,940
many of them were at very close range

983
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:12,230
where they walked out in front of cars

984
00:42:16,479 --> 00:42:14,390
for example so five to ten feet away

985
00:42:18,509 --> 00:42:16,489
from witnesses they walked near mobile

986
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:18,519
homes a lot of sightings in rural areas

987
00:42:23,319 --> 00:42:21,170
and some in more populated areas where

988
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:23,329
there's woods around and many of those

989
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:27,170
instances either my team or the police

990
00:42:30,729 --> 00:42:28,730
departments would be on the scene within

991
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:30,739
minister hours so we're documenting all

992
00:42:36,029 --> 00:42:33,170
this information as is going on and we

993
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:36,039
made many castor footprints interviewed

994
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,569
multitude of eyewitnesses saw a lot of

995
00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:40,160
very interesting evidence out in the

996
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:44,660
field I smelled it on one time I believe

997
00:42:49,329 --> 00:42:47,749
I chased a Bigfoot through a field on on

998
00:42:52,059 --> 00:42:49,339
a farm one thing kept coming back

999
00:42:53,979 --> 00:42:52,069
whatever it was it was a lot faster we

1000
00:42:56,289 --> 00:42:53,989
were it was ahead of us in the dark in

1001
00:42:58,690 --> 00:42:56,299
the cornfield making this very strange

1002
00:43:00,940 --> 00:42:58,700
sound like somebody would answer my very

1003
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:00,950
loud heavy breathing sound we recorded

1004
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:02,450
the sounds we could never catch up to

1005
00:43:05,319 --> 00:43:03,410
whatever

1006
00:43:08,289 --> 00:43:05,329
there were tracks in the barn and the

1007
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:08,299
animals were very rate and shook up on

1008
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:10,910
the farm at the time there are

1009
00:43:15,609 --> 00:43:14,329
multitudes of cases that let me ask you

1010
00:43:18,609 --> 00:43:15,619
the first time I've heard of a

1011
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:18,619
three-toed is this a three-toed Bigfoot

1012
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:20,049
you think or was the three-toed

1013
00:43:27,069 --> 00:43:25,130
belonging to something else well it's a

1014
00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:27,079
long stretch there's a lot of things

1015
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:28,849
I've uncovered about Bigfoot's a lot of

1016
00:43:32,979 --> 00:43:31,219
people don't know about or a lot of

1017
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:32,989
people in Bigfoot field would prefer not

1018
00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:35,450
to talk about this I sounds a long time

1019
00:43:40,930 --> 00:43:38,959
ago here's what what we know and many

1020
00:43:43,029 --> 00:43:40,940
people are big with you're aware of this

1021
00:43:44,859 --> 00:43:43,039
you know historically hear about a lot

1022
00:43:47,769 --> 00:43:44,869
of studies in Pacific Northwest and

1023
00:43:49,749 --> 00:43:47,779
Canada California Oregon and you hear

1024
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:49,759
about your typical five toes footprints

1025
00:43:54,219 --> 00:43:51,890
but what has been known for many many

1026
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:54,229
years going back to the least of 1970s

1027
00:43:58,089 --> 00:43:56,089
because I was in touch with many of the

1028
00:43:59,859 --> 00:43:58,099
well-known people in the field back in

1029
00:44:02,620 --> 00:43:59,869
those days in the United States and

1030
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:02,630
around the world and in those areas

1031
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:04,249
where you had your typical Bigfoot

1032
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:06,410
sightings and your typical phyto tracks

1033
00:44:12,130 --> 00:44:09,170
they were also at times find three toe

1034
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:12,140
tracks and even for toe tracks which is

1035
00:44:15,939 --> 00:44:13,670
another part of the mystery because the

1036
00:44:18,099 --> 00:44:15,949
school goes on and these do not appear

1037
00:44:20,469 --> 00:44:18,109
to be hoax tracks I mean we had a lot of

1038
00:44:22,689 --> 00:44:20,479
experts in my teams and we could tell

1039
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:22,699
when Simon was fabricated or not but

1040
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:25,729
there are many cases of Bigfoot where

1041
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:28,609
three toed tracks are showing up in some

1042
00:44:32,949 --> 00:44:30,140
of the famous case I believe the thought

1043
00:44:35,049 --> 00:44:32,959
monster and and the other ones around

1044
00:44:37,569 --> 00:44:35,059
the country three toed tracks have been

1045
00:44:40,509 --> 00:44:37,579
reported as well as five toe tracks and

1046
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:40,519
during this time period in 73 and PA we

1047
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:42,440
had five throat tracks and three-toed

1048
00:44:46,959 --> 00:44:45,410
tracks showing up but anyhow all these

1049
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:46,969
reports are coming in for months and

1050
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:49,190
months I had always solved for what I

1051
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:52,150
knew about Bigfoot and in Pennsylvania

1052
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:54,650
sightings of bass would go back to the

1053
00:44:59,170 --> 00:44:56,900
Native American legends I mean no

1054
00:45:02,410 --> 00:44:59,180
articles in the 1800s in the newspapers

1055
00:45:04,329 --> 00:45:02,420
about these events many sightings ever

1056
00:45:06,219 --> 00:45:04,339
since then so I worked on hundreds of

1057
00:45:09,509 --> 00:45:06,229
Bigfoot sightings over the years in

1058
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:09,519
recent as recent weeks and months and

1059
00:45:14,289 --> 00:45:12,170
always felt that Bigfoot appeared to be

1060
00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:14,299
some type of unknown animal that size

1061
00:45:18,770 --> 00:45:15,380
they get the can

1062
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:18,780
but as these reports are breaking in 73

1063
00:45:24,490 --> 00:45:21,660
some very strange things begin to come

1064
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:24,500
to our attention and you got to remember

1065
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:27,270
1973 there's no cell phones there's no

1066
00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:30,510
internet he shows about it

1067
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,460
so channeling when people were concerned

1068
00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:33,839
or afraid they're generally called the

1069
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:36,030
police so while these reports were

1070
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:37,050
initially coming in to the police

1071
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:39,900
departments why are the weird things we

1072
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:42,750
began to notice was our teams we get out

1073
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:44,040
to some of these locations

1074
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:46,440
there'll be trails of footprints that

1075
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:48,690
would suddenly stop and disappear when

1076
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:49,910
it should have been more tracks

1077
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,970
sometimes even a fresh snow and even in

1078
00:45:57,980 --> 00:45:55,680
recent years we a case I guess we have

1079
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:57,990
deep fresh snow there's no other tracks

1080
00:46:02,329 --> 00:46:00,060
around and he have these large tracks

1081
00:46:04,339 --> 00:46:02,339
and a big stride that are deep and they

1082
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:04,349
suddenly stop and vanish which makes

1083
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,630
absolutely no sense

1084
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:08,880
that was something we began we began to

1085
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:11,490
scratch our head and then we began to

1086
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,480
see this pattern in 73 we would have a

1087
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:18,000
UFO sighting in a certain area within

1088
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:19,859
minutes two hours two days later we'd

1089
00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:21,210
have a Bigfoot sighting or vice versa

1090
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:24,980
and then we began to have

1091
00:46:29,810 --> 00:46:27,450
well-documented case with Bigfoot and

1092
00:46:32,750 --> 00:46:29,820
UFOs seen together at the same same time

1093
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:32,760
in place and we were we were really

1094
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:34,890
scratching like what is going on here

1095
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:36,540
leave none of us are out there looking

1096
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:38,609
for this this is the kind of things that

1097
00:46:43,579 --> 00:46:40,920
we're going on and it was going on over

1098
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:43,589
a widespread area one of the cases out

1099
00:46:49,070 --> 00:46:46,710
with September 27 1973 up in Beaver

1100
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:49,080
County north of Pittsburgh where two

1101
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:50,790
women were waiting for a friend to pick

1102
00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:52,920
them up and they see this eight to nine

1103
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:55,589
foot tall upright man like Bigfoot

1104
00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:57,210
creature with very long arms come with

1105
00:47:00,859 --> 00:46:59,160
white hair you don't hear about the

1106
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,869
white ones very often but they continue

1107
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:03,359
to be reported on occasion it was

1108
00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:05,310
strange enough for them to see this huge

1109
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:07,020
hairy creature running across the road

1110
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:09,570
towards the woods but in one of its hand

1111
00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:12,630
it was carrying a small ball of light

1112
00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:15,869
and a short time later an object came

1113
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:18,150
across the sky and projected a beam of

1114
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:19,530
light down at the woods with a creature

1115
00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:22,200
ran into now we thought that's pretty

1116
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:23,700
interesting and that's just as an

1117
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:27,180
example but then we had the case of all

1118
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:29,290
cases which occur

1119
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:33,360
forty-four years ago today October 25th

1120
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:36,210
1973 in Fayette County Pennsylvania

1121
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:39,160
which is along the Chestnut Ridge which

1122
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:40,480
I'm sure we'll talk about in a few

1123
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:43,450
minutes yeah and and that was an area

1124
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:45,610
that was very active during that time

1125
00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:47,350
period and continues to be year after

1126
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:49,540
year including this year but it was a

1127
00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:52,180
very strange event it was the case that

1128
00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:54,700
convinced me and my team that there was

1129
00:48:00,360 --> 00:47:57,070
a lot more stranger aspects to Bigfoot

1130
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:00,370
than any of us realized what happened

1131
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:03,310
was about 10:30 that night I got a call

1132
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:05,500
from a state trooper from the Uniontown

1133
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:08,080
barracks up in Fayette County when I

1134
00:48:13,050 --> 00:48:10,290
talked to him he was a little shook up

1135
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:13,060
he asked me if we could get a team up

1136
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:14,410
there as soon as possible

1137
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,270
that he felt that there may be something

1138
00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:18,160
up in the past year might still be there

1139
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:21,030
so what I found out was about 9 o'clock

1140
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:24,400
about 15 people in this rural community

1141
00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:27,490
outside of Uniontown they observed this

1142
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:30,520
object is about as big as a barn a big

1143
00:48:36,690 --> 00:48:34,390
red big ball in the sky about a hundred

1144
00:48:41,490 --> 00:48:36,700
feet off the ground and slowly beginning

1145
00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:41,500
to move down towards the pasture and the

1146
00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:44,860
story should focus on the farmer son who

1147
00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:46,750
was coming down the farm lane that

1148
00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:49,120
evening he sees the object in the sky

1149
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:51,400
he's coming out to visit his father on

1150
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:52,690
his father's farm where this is

1151
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:55,090
occurring he sees other people standing

1152
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:56,650
outside people on a porch of house

1153
00:49:00,900 --> 00:48:58,690
watching this thing in the sky coming

1154
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:00,910
lower and lower to the ground so he goes

1155
00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:04,810
up on a hill to get a better view and he

1156
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:06,460
and two young boys as their watches

1157
00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:08,230
thing they decide they want to go up and

1158
00:49:12,810 --> 00:49:10,150
to investigate to see what this thing is

1159
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:12,820
coming down his dad's pasture so he runs

1160
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:14,290
over and they run over to this dad's

1161
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:17,470
farm they grab a 30.6 rifle and a

1162
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:20,140
handful of ammunition what he didn't

1163
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:21,580
realize at the time was in that

1164
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:24,640
ammunition were two tracers so for those

1165
00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:26,320
that are listening at Hunt you know when

1166
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:27,430
you fire their tracer

1167
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:29,950
you just get that luminous trail so

1168
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,980
anyhow as they're moving down the farm

1169
00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:35,680
lane the dogs in the distance are going

1170
00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:37,480
crazy they hear this high-pitched

1171
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:40,300
whining sound and he has his baby crying

1172
00:49:44,269 --> 00:49:42,630
sounds and as they get

1173
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:44,279
those are closer to the past year all

1174
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:45,690
the sounds of getting louder

1175
00:49:49,789 --> 00:49:48,089
they angle their truck with the

1176
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:49,799
headlights on to see the way up to the

1177
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:51,420
top of the pasture and they notice that

1178
00:49:54,979 --> 00:49:53,640
it looks like something's training the

1179
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:54,989
power from the headlight so they've

1180
00:49:59,029 --> 00:49:56,220
never had that problem before

1181
00:50:01,609 --> 00:49:59,039
and of course historically there are

1182
00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:01,619
many incidents of low-level UFO case or

1183
00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:03,140
where they there's a power drainage

1184
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:07,859
awesome power yes walking up the pasture

1185
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:09,720
they get to the top of the hill they're

1186
00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:11,940
standing there you know looking across

1187
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:13,950
the field and they can't believe what

1188
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:16,109
they're seeing because that object is

1189
00:50:21,469 --> 00:50:18,930
about 250 feet away and it's now on the

1190
00:50:23,299 --> 00:50:21,479
ground or right above it now it's like a

1191
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:23,309
big white that's not a complete sphere

1192
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:25,140
like a half a sphere like a big white

1193
00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:28,380
dome ruminating the whole area about a

1194
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:30,440
hundred feet or so in diameter and

1195
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:34,410
making this loud whining noise they're

1196
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,089
standing there in amazement they can't

1197
00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:38,460
believe what they're seeing but then

1198
00:50:43,489 --> 00:50:40,440
their attentions drawn to this barbed

1199
00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:43,499
wire fence about 75 feet away so these

1200
00:50:48,469 --> 00:50:45,630
part the poles on that fence about six

1201
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:48,479
feet tall along that barbed-wire fence

1202
00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:51,690
one behind the other of these two huge

1203
00:50:56,539 --> 00:50:54,150
hairy Bigfoot creatures walking one

1204
00:50:58,819 --> 00:50:56,549
behind the other in their direction the

1205
00:51:00,529 --> 00:50:58,829
one in front about eight feet tall the

1206
00:51:02,779 --> 00:51:00,539
one behind it's about seven feet tall

1207
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:02,789
when these guys saw in their first

1208
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:04,200
thought was though they got to be bare

1209
00:51:07,849 --> 00:51:06,210
but they know what they looked like

1210
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:07,859
these things were not like a bear at all

1211
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:10,650
they soon realize that I mean the arms

1212
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:12,839
are so long they have elongated man in

1213
00:51:16,819 --> 00:51:14,609
here hanging off the body the arms are

1214
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:16,829
so long almost down to the ground these

1215
00:51:22,459 --> 00:51:19,170
things have no neck they're walking

1216
00:51:24,469 --> 00:51:22,469
stiffly one behind the other upright the

1217
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,479
eyes they said look about the size of 50

1218
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,920
cent piece but they're luminous and

1219
00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:28,319
glowing bright green they're making this

1220
00:51:34,729 --> 00:51:31,559
loud baby crying whining sound that's

1221
00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:34,739
free one kid the one kid is so scared

1222
00:51:39,499 --> 00:51:37,380
that he runs out of the field the other

1223
00:51:40,190 --> 00:51:39,509
kid starts using the yup start shooting

1224
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:40,200
sorry

1225
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,029
starts yelling to the guy to shoot at

1226
00:51:46,759 --> 00:51:44,880
them and he takes his first shot which

1227
00:51:49,549 --> 00:51:46,769
is just a tracer so you just got that

1228
00:51:53,089 --> 00:51:49,559
luminous trail he fires the second

1229
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:53,099
tracer and at that time what happens is

1230
00:51:57,340 --> 00:51:55,310
the large other two cream

1231
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:57,350
reaches out as though to grab that

1232
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:00,800
tracer and exactly that same time that

1233
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:03,770
huge object in the field disappears it

1234
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:07,070
doesn't take off it just vanishes so

1235
00:52:11,410 --> 00:52:09,290
most all the luminosity is gone that

1236
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,420
loud whining noise is gone all the

1237
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:13,040
brightness is gone and the object is

1238
00:52:16,210 --> 00:52:13,520
gone

1239
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:16,220
the creatures turn around and stories

1240
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:17,720
from walking back along the fence line

1241
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:20,600
towards the woods at that point the guy

1242
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:23,470
starts firing live ammo from his 30.6

1243
00:52:28,090 --> 00:52:25,970
into the mainly into the main creature

1244
00:52:30,220 --> 00:52:28,100
and that guy always said to me said I'll

1245
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,230
never forget how that you just saying

1246
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:32,240
that creature kept staring at me as I'm

1247
00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:35,030
pumping by my enamel into my throat you

1248
00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:37,270
had sex with no effect on him whatsoever

1249
00:52:42,190 --> 00:52:40,100
that point they ran back to the truck

1250
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:42,200
then went to the farmhouse told the

1251
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:43,760
people what happened took him to a

1252
00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:45,310
neighbor's and called the State Police

1253
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:48,260
when they were to arrive 45 minutes

1254
00:52:53,590 --> 00:52:51,710
later the witness was really reluctant

1255
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,600
to talk to us I just forget about it you

1256
00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:55,760
guys think I'm crazy and a trooper said

1257
00:52:58,690 --> 00:52:57,260
look we had a report of two similar

1258
00:53:00,970 --> 00:52:58,700
creatures on the mountain the night

1259
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,980
before I had to go up to investigate the

1260
00:53:04,990 --> 00:53:03,440
report so they go up in the troop corner

1261
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,000
looking for evidence up in that field

1262
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:08,240
and the state trooper told me the area

1263
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:10,760
where the object was on the ground will

1264
00:53:14,590 --> 00:53:13,010
solve luminescent glowing about a

1265
00:53:17,350 --> 00:53:14,600
hundred feet or more in diameter

1266
00:53:19,570 --> 00:53:17,360
he said the farm animals would not go

1267
00:53:21,220 --> 00:53:19,580
near it he said if he had a newspaper in

1268
00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:21,230
his hand he could have read the

1269
00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:23,360
newspaper from the light coming off the

1270
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:27,470
glowing area hmm the story got stranger

1271
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:29,270
and stranger during the night when our

1272
00:53:34,330 --> 00:53:32,930
teams got there it's a long story I

1273
00:53:36,490 --> 00:53:34,340
wrote the whole thing up my cell

1274
00:53:38,350 --> 00:53:36,500
invasion book it's probably one of the

1275
00:53:41,290 --> 00:53:38,360
weirdest stories that were documented

1276
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:41,300
but it was the case that convinced my

1277
00:53:45,850 --> 00:53:43,910
team and myself that there's a lot more

1278
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:45,860
of this phenomena and it's much stranger

1279
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:47,930
than anybody realized and it was

1280
00:53:51,370 --> 00:53:49,550
probably around that time I was

1281
00:53:53,710 --> 00:53:51,380
beginning to ask more questions and I've

1282
00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:53,720
asked that ever since that time over the

1283
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:55,550
years with all the Bigfoot case I

1284
00:53:59,920 --> 00:53:57,290
investigated that you know something

1285
00:54:02,290 --> 00:53:59,930
makes no sense here if Bigfoot is real

1286
00:54:04,210 --> 00:54:02,300
and they're seeing all repent sylvania

1287
00:54:06,610 --> 00:54:04,220
all over the country all over the world

1288
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:06,620
something similar after all these years

1289
00:54:12,110 --> 00:54:07,450
we

1290
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:12,120
have a body it makes absolutely no sense

1291
00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:15,100
yeah all this evidence that people are

1292
00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:17,080
these sightings and experiences people

1293
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:18,940
have but we're gonna take another very

1294
00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:20,650
short commercial break everybody

1295
00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:22,840
stay tuned we are speaking with Stan

1296
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:25,060
Gordon tonight you can find him at Stan

1297
00:54:30,180 --> 00:54:27,970
Gordon dot info so again you are

1298
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:30,190
listening to Supernatural girls radio

1299
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:33,730
we'll be right back piqué and our

1300
00:54:39,420 --> 00:54:36,910
amazing guest tonight Stan Gordon he is

1301
00:54:42,270 --> 00:54:39,430
the man for investigations of all things

1302
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:42,280
paranormal and we are talking right now

1303
00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:45,160
about Bigfoot and UFOs and I know Stan

1304
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:46,420
we're going to get into Chestnut Ridge

1305
00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:49,510
and one of the strangest stories that

1306
00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:52,470
you've heard recently so please continue

1307
00:54:58,980 --> 00:54:55,390
what else can you tell us my gosh are on

1308
00:55:01,200 --> 00:54:58,990
the edge of our seats here Stan well you

1309
00:55:02,850 --> 00:55:01,210
know first of all what I'm trying it is

1310
00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:02,860
very hard to explain something that none

1311
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:05,320
of us have the answers for but and I'm

1312
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:08,050
not trying to suggest for example what

1313
00:55:13,290 --> 00:55:10,300
what you're hearing that Bigfoot is

1314
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:13,300
necessarily an alien riding around in

1315
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:15,070
the spaceship because we don't know for

1316
00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:17,050
sure what the UFOs are I mean there's a

1317
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:19,720
lot of speculation out there but more

1318
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:22,330
and more the evidence I'm seeing is that

1319
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:24,970
for a lack of a better term that's some

1320
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:27,310
type of UFOs and various type of

1321
00:55:32,010 --> 00:55:30,010
cryptids which include Bigfoot many of

1322
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:32,020
the Bigfoot cases appear to be

1323
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:34,240
interdimensional that under certain

1324
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:36,640
conditions they come into our physical

1325
00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:39,610
reality they can look physically solid

1326
00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:41,080
at times even though there's cases where

1327
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:42,520
they don't always appear to be

1328
00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:44,890
completely physically solid a lot of

1329
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:46,120
people don't know about those either

1330
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:48,010
they can leave evidence and are gone

1331
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:50,050
they come and they go and there's

1332
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,450
multitude to reports my my latest book

1333
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:54,640
astonishing encounters Pennsylvania's

1334
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:56,410
unknown creatures gets - all kind of

1335
00:56:00,840 --> 00:55:58,810
weird entities and things people name

1336
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:00,850
their owner before which is just that as

1337
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:04,390
well but anyhow going back to that 73-74

1338
00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:07,990
time period we began to see even weirder

1339
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:10,120
reports not just a Bigfoot UFO seen

1340
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:12,730
together but other cases that suggested

1341
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:14,890
that there may well be more to Bigfoot

1342
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:17,200
than a flesh-and-blood explanation it

1343
00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:19,150
was a case that happened February 6

1344
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,900
nineteen

1345
00:56:25,049 --> 00:56:22,000
me for way up in the mountains of

1346
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,059
Fayette County again and again along the

1347
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:27,760
Chestnut Ridge in that general area that

1348
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:29,890
was the case that convinced me that

1349
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:31,690
there was a lot more to Bigfoot than

1350
00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:34,690
just an unknown animal and I'm sure a

1351
00:56:39,299 --> 00:56:36,700
lot of your listeners will recall that

1352
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:39,309
time period because there was a large

1353
00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:41,650
national trucker strike going on there

1354
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,480
was gas rationing going on around the

1355
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:46,240
country there was a violence on the

1356
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:47,980
highways across the country so in

1357
00:56:52,859 --> 00:56:50,440
Pennsylvania the National Guard was

1358
00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:52,869
patrolling with the State Police they

1359
00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:55,420
they both responded to this incident

1360
00:56:58,799 --> 00:56:57,640
that evening when it happened I couldn't

1361
00:57:02,059 --> 00:56:58,809
get up here because I couldn't get

1362
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:02,069
Gaston earlier next morning this woman

1363
00:57:07,170 --> 00:57:04,630
lived in a little cabin home deep in the

1364
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,180
mountains she lived here all her life

1365
00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:09,760
she knew animals very well she was

1366
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:11,230
pretty much not afraid of too many

1367
00:57:16,890 --> 00:57:13,510
things she was a very good shot with her

1368
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:16,900
weapons and she said no watchin TV she

1369
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:18,490
hears this commotion on a little front

1370
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:21,640
porch she had some empty pop cans out

1371
00:57:27,150 --> 00:57:23,410
there some was not gonna pop cans around

1372
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:27,160
a few weeks before those a pack of wild

1373
00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:28,930
dogs came through and she said you know

1374
00:57:32,220 --> 00:57:30,520
what I bet you those dogs are back so

1375
00:57:34,769 --> 00:57:32,230
she thought you know what I'll grab my

1376
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:34,779
shotgun and I'll load one chair out a

1377
00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:36,130
sheet over their head and scare those

1378
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:41,140
dogs away brains lady she grabs her

1379
00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:43,930
shotgun blows one chamber she walks over

1380
00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:45,880
to the wall to turn on the switch to

1381
00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:48,220
turn on the porch light she walks to the

1382
00:57:54,329 --> 00:57:50,380
front door opens up the door and she

1383
00:57:56,519 --> 00:57:54,339
walks out there's no dogs there but only

1384
00:57:59,309 --> 00:57:56,529
a few feet away right in front of her is

1385
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:59,319
his huge hairy bigfoot-type creature

1386
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:01,839
with his arm straight up overhead and

1387
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:04,240
she never the numerous times I

1388
00:58:08,099 --> 00:58:06,430
interviewed her she never ever called it

1389
00:58:10,859 --> 00:58:08,109
a Bigfoot she said it looked like a

1390
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:10,869
great big hairy ape so what does she do

1391
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:13,119
what she sees his creature she fires

1392
00:58:17,730 --> 00:58:15,910
right into it with her shotgun Eugene

1393
00:58:20,819 --> 00:58:17,740
said there was this bright flash of

1394
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:20,829
light like the flash on a camera and the

1395
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:22,510
creature disappears right in front of

1396
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,770
her Wow oh my hear the gunshot a hundred

1397
00:58:30,809 --> 00:58:29,200
feet away and they call and ask her what

1398
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:30,819
are you shooting at she tried to explain

1399
00:58:35,099 --> 00:58:31,960
to him what happened

1400
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:35,109
her son Ola grabs his pistol he starts

1401
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:36,760
walking up the dirt road towards the

1402
00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:39,670
home the cabin home he saw a figure

1403
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:41,560
running up to run as he got closer he

1404
00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:43,750
said he was surrounded by four or five

1405
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,270
eerie people with eyes like coals of

1406
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:48,640
fire started shooting at shooting at

1407
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:51,490
them he ran into the cabin and about the

1408
00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:54,130
same time there's this large object that

1409
00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:56,140
he said like a big Christmas ornament

1410
00:59:00,210 --> 00:58:57,670
with red lights on her hovering over the

1411
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:00,220
woods at the same time no they called

1412
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:04,810
police police the other investigators

1413
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:07,330
got up to the scene whatever was there

1414
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:10,480
was gone however I talked to the primary

1415
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:12,490
investigator and he said I don't know

1416
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:14,560
what happened up there it was something

1417
00:59:20,099 --> 00:59:17,500
very strange Daddy based on the animal

1418
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:20,109
reactions yeah and I know I mentioned

1419
00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:21,520
you but I've tried to mention this your

1420
00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:22,869
listeners and all the years I've been

1421
00:59:28,829 --> 00:59:24,820
doing this I have never personally seen

1422
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:28,839
a UFO a Bigfoot myself but right I think

1423
00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:30,910
what the officers saw I've seen the

1424
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:34,180
animal reactions you can fool people you

1425
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:37,270
can for the animals very commonly when

1426
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:39,790
Bigfoot these creatures are around farm

1427
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:42,040
animals and animals are very shook up

1428
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:45,190
very scared don't behave as normal but

1429
00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:47,290
it's very prominent and even the most

1430
00:59:51,780 --> 00:59:49,960
vicious dogs and this is something you

1431
00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:51,790
couldn't fabricate generally when

1432
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:54,460
they're close by most dogs are just like

1433
00:59:59,400 --> 00:59:56,410
paralyzed and will not bark they don't

1434
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,410
move they cower they hide sometimes

1435
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:01,119
their diet changes they were only even

1436
01:00:04,829 --> 01:00:03,400
eat prey for 2-3 days later it can't

1437
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:04,839
fabricate that I remember one of the

1438
01:00:08,670 --> 01:00:06,790
troopers told me he said when I got up

1439
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,680
there that evening go several big dogs

1440
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:11,200
there I think one was an Eskimo Spitz

1441
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:13,810
was a German Shepherd one of them was in

1442
01:00:17,339 --> 01:00:15,250
a cage and a dog should have been

1443
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:17,349
barking going crazy it wouldn't make a

1444
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:19,810
sound he put his hand inside tried to

1445
01:00:22,650 --> 01:00:21,670
move the dog to pull the dog out dog

1446
01:00:24,839 --> 01:00:22,660
would even move

1447
01:00:26,579 --> 01:00:24,849
she'll rip the guy's arm off the next

1448
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:26,589
morning everything back soon when I got

1449
01:00:32,490 --> 01:00:29,410
up to the scene that was one among other

1450
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:32,500
cases which suggested that we were

1451
01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:34,270
dealing with something there wasn't a

1452
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:37,390
normal unknown flesh-and-blood creature

1453
01:00:44,110 --> 01:00:41,690
yes cases of other critters

1454
01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:44,120
over the years we're seeing this as well

1455
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:46,070
more and more even in recent months of

1456
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,110
some of these reports so some of the

1457
01:00:55,180 --> 01:00:50,000
other cryptids we investigate here would

1458
01:00:57,850 --> 01:00:55,190
be Thunderbird reports black panther

1459
01:01:00,430 --> 01:00:57,860
sightings and then a whole variety of

1460
01:01:03,010 --> 01:01:00,440
all kind of other weird things that vary

1461
01:01:05,710 --> 01:01:03,020
from flying humanoids to floating

1462
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:05,720
entities to just all kind of weird

1463
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:07,490
things that are people reporting even in

1464
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:11,930
recent weeks and the Thunderbird reports

1465
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:13,840
are very interesting I mean historically

1466
01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:16,310
reports of these giant birds have been

1467
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:19,160
around for years and years and it's very

1468
01:01:22,510 --> 01:01:20,450
difficult

1469
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:22,520
just like with UFO sightings to judge

1470
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:25,610
altitude and size but in some cases the

1471
01:01:30,850 --> 01:01:28,370
huge flying creatures have been very low

1472
01:01:32,740 --> 01:01:30,860
off the ground or actually on the ground

1473
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:32,750
we've had incidents where they were

1474
01:01:36,940 --> 01:01:35,090
blocking in the roadway and and the

1475
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:36,950
witnesses could see their wingtips the

1476
01:01:40,810 --> 01:01:39,080
ends of the wings on the road there was

1477
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:40,820
one case a neighboring West Virginia

1478
01:01:45,340 --> 01:01:43,640
back in 2007 where a fellow's riding

1479
01:01:47,470 --> 01:01:45,350
down a two-lane road that morning at the

1480
01:01:49,690 --> 01:01:47,480
hitters brakes got his it's huge

1481
01:01:53,170 --> 01:01:49,700
monstrous bird and wood roadkill in its

1482
01:01:55,660 --> 01:01:53,180
mouth he said it's totally four feet

1483
01:01:58,060 --> 01:01:55,670
tall it was taller on top of his vehicle

1484
01:01:58,570 --> 01:01:58,070
he was staring at it it was staring at

1485
01:02:00,940 --> 01:01:58,580
him

1486
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:00,950
it was hobbling back and forth tried to

1487
01:02:04,810 --> 01:02:02,570
get off the ground with his huge body

1488
01:02:07,420 --> 01:02:04,820
crying and flapping its wings and he

1489
01:02:09,550 --> 01:02:07,430
said he's watching the wing tips and he

1490
01:02:11,830 --> 01:02:09,560
said you can see the dust and dirt going

1491
01:02:14,140 --> 01:02:11,840
up from the ground and finally it got up

1492
01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:14,150
over the trees and went away he said he

1493
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:15,590
went back to the scene the next day to

1494
01:02:27,310 --> 01:02:17,510
measure it it was twenty-one feet across

1495
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:27,320
oh my god enormous enormous there's been

1496
01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:29,090
a number of these giant bird sightings

1497
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:31,220
stopped some of them up along the ridge

1498
01:02:35,740 --> 01:02:33,680
and the last week of May of this year up

1499
01:02:36,850 --> 01:02:35,750
on top of the ridge and I mean I've

1500
01:02:38,410 --> 01:02:36,860
interviewed a lot of these people and

1501
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,420
these are really credible people and

1502
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:40,400
these people weren't no publicity most

1503
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,050
people I talked to were no publicity but

1504
01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:44,240
anyhow they've been living up there for

1505
01:02:48,130 --> 01:02:46,520
years and they said during that period

1506
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:48,140
in May on a couple occasions they were

1507
01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:51,170
seeing these huge dark bird Jony dark

1508
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:54,660
black black shelley dark brown or black

1509
01:02:59,450 --> 01:02:57,450
and with huge wingspans and one day they

1510
01:03:01,690 --> 01:02:59,460
saw some a number of them circling above

1511
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:01,700
but on one day one day in particular

1512
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:03,780
several these things when ended in their

1513
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:06,270
big garden in their backyard and it was

1514
01:03:10,490 --> 01:03:08,040
six to eight of them on the ground and

1515
01:03:12,410 --> 01:03:10,500
they thought first of all was they must

1516
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:12,420
be condors it's like no birds like that

1517
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:15,000
around here that big but they but these

1518
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,740
people in those turkey vultures I knew

1519
01:03:22,550 --> 01:03:19,200
blue herons a new Hawks they said that's

1520
01:03:25,310 --> 01:03:22,560
not what these were and they estimated

1521
01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:25,320
that some of these things stood five and

1522
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:28,260
a half to six feet tall with at least a

1523
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,690
10 to 12-foot wingspan the small one

1524
01:03:35,210 --> 01:03:32,160
store about four and a half to five feet

1525
01:03:39,410 --> 01:03:35,220
tall and luckily they got some pictures

1526
01:03:41,390 --> 01:03:39,420
oh and oh they're not that great you can

1527
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,400
see some detail and I had a bird expert

1528
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:43,680
look at some of the pictures and he was

1529
01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:46,110
he's skeptical but he was really

1530
01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:48,990
scratching his head because he looked at

1531
01:03:52,850 --> 01:03:50,910
some of these pictures on one specimen

1532
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:52,860
in particularly said it would appear to

1533
01:03:57,470 --> 01:03:55,650
be very tall and had a very large neck

1534
01:03:59,870 --> 01:03:57,480
and he mentioned how the head in the

1535
01:04:01,250 --> 01:03:59,880
neck was being held straight up and it

1536
01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:01,260
stumped him because he had never seen a

1537
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:05,040
bird of that size in that position so

1538
01:04:09,860 --> 01:04:06,480
that was kind of interesting and then

1539
01:04:13,070 --> 01:04:09,870
even more recently and this would be up

1540
01:04:15,650 --> 01:04:13,080
in northern Pennsylvania there have been

1541
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:15,660
a lot of sightings up around TYIN esta a

1542
01:04:24,770 --> 01:04:18,450
Bigfoot up north the Allegheny National

1543
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:24,780
Forest up towards Kinzua Dam and anyhow

1544
01:04:30,830 --> 01:04:27,720
this was a man and another person was in

1545
01:04:32,660 --> 01:04:30,840
the vehicle at the time and I'm just

1546
01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:32,670
trying to think here it was only a few

1547
01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:34,020
months ago we see what I can find some

1548
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:35,640
notes on this thing while we're talking

1549
01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:41,160
but he had an encounter and was very

1550
01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:42,750
strange and he said it's a curtain run

1551
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,230
July 15th so it wasn't far from the time

1552
01:04:50,660 --> 01:04:48,240
that other sighting they're riding down

1553
01:04:53,830 --> 01:04:50,670
this road your big run P in Jefferson

1554
01:04:56,570 --> 01:04:53,840
County they they headlights on the road

1555
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:56,580
about 10 of 12 feet ahead of them didn't

1556
01:05:00,350 --> 01:04:58,410
notice and a large deer standing or

1557
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:00,360
right side of the road seconds later

1558
01:05:05,450 --> 01:05:03,180
this huge giant Birds swooped down -

1559
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,460
with it and feet that move left to right

1560
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:08,160
a friend or vehicle they can see a clue

1561
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:10,799
high beams the wings were down when they

1562
01:05:15,319 --> 01:05:12,780
saw it they never saw the flap its wings

1563
01:05:17,870 --> 01:05:15,329
the entire bird was either dark brown or

1564
01:05:20,690 --> 01:05:17,880
black the wings being pretty much larger

1565
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:20,700
than dear estimators least 10 to 12 foot

1566
01:05:25,099 --> 01:05:23,250
they could see the feathers on it they

1567
01:05:27,049 --> 01:05:25,109
can see his long body very large

1568
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:27,059
wingspan and they had appear to be more

1569
01:05:32,059 --> 01:05:29,369
flat it was short and the beak was short

1570
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:32,069
they heard no sound when the bird

1571
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:34,049
swooped down it glided two to three feet

1572
01:05:39,289 --> 01:05:35,970
above the ground they thought maybe it

1573
01:05:41,299 --> 01:05:39,299
was going down after the deer but the

1574
01:05:43,339 --> 01:05:41,309
witness said they soft like five to six

1575
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:43,349
seconds they had never seen a bird that

1576
01:05:47,359 --> 01:05:45,569
big before it looked like I had a head

1577
01:05:50,359 --> 01:05:47,369
similar to an eagle but a headless

1578
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:50,369
flatten had a short beak and that just

1579
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,420
says these are amazing stories that let

1580
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:56,160
me just stop you for a second got just a

1581
01:05:59,059 --> 01:05:57,690
couple questions I wanted to ask you

1582
01:06:01,460 --> 01:05:59,069
from the chat room I don't want to

1583
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:01,470
ignore these folks this is from Karen

1584
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:03,299
she's asking in all the years you've

1585
01:06:07,579 --> 01:06:04,799
been doing this do you think the

1586
01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:07,589
increase of YouTube's paranormal footage

1587
01:06:12,740 --> 01:06:09,480
postings has made it tougher for

1588
01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:12,750
investigators like you to be heard from

1589
01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:14,700
the rest of the crowd do you think it's

1590
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:17,940
made it tougher for you or easier well

1591
01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:20,609
its pros and cons I mean what what the

1592
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,190
the media exposure is doing from the TV

1593
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:25,920
shows YouTube it's the least getting the

1594
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:27,569
information out there that these things

1595
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:29,640
are allegedly being seen around the

1596
01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:31,710
country and around the world so in some

1597
01:06:35,890 --> 01:06:34,020
places it's encouraging people who may

1598
01:06:38,510 --> 01:06:35,900
have been reluctant to report before

1599
01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:38,520
more of them maybe are willing to come

1600
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:40,529
forward and talk even though the

1601
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:42,690
majority of people call me they may tell

1602
01:06:47,180 --> 01:06:44,730
me about as many reluctantly but they

1603
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:47,190
know what their names used right right

1604
01:06:50,450 --> 01:06:48,720
well that's an interesting perspective

1605
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:50,460
and then here's another quick question

1606
01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:53,130
for you from Veritas who's asking since

1607
01:06:59,480 --> 01:06:55,140
the government is aware of UFOs are they

1608
01:07:02,539 --> 01:06:59,490
also where Bigfoot I believe so in fact

1609
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:02,549
in my books I go into that going back to

1610
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,200
that wave of 1973 there is no doubt that

1611
01:07:12,019 --> 01:07:08,880
there was some government interest in

1612
01:07:14,450 --> 01:07:12,029
our investigations and there was some

1613
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:14,460
mystery men that showed up so I go into

1614
01:07:20,049 --> 01:07:16,890
that in the silence Asian book there

1615
01:07:21,570 --> 01:07:20,059
were other incidents some very very

1616
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,580
detailed

1617
01:07:26,190 --> 01:07:23,440
incidents I've had with UFOs and

1618
01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:26,200
cryptids and there were some cases which

1619
01:07:31,110 --> 01:07:29,140
suggested the possibility that some

1620
01:07:34,070 --> 01:07:31,120
government agencies got involved in the

1621
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:34,080
investigations on their own as well and

1622
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:37,150
for a long time I believed that the

1623
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:39,040
government has an interest both in UFOs

1624
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:41,530
and Bigfoot and I wouldn't be a bit

1625
01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:43,210
surprised that they're looking more and

1626
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:45,100
more into what I've been looking into

1627
01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:47,290
into the interdimensional theory that

1628
01:07:51,090 --> 01:07:49,120
there may be more of this is something

1629
01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:51,100
extraterrestrial I don't think the

1630
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:52,060
government has all the answers

1631
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:54,550
themselves I have no doubt that they're

1632
01:07:58,890 --> 01:07:56,890
very intrigued by it they're very

1633
01:08:00,750 --> 01:07:58,900
concerned over it but they're not to

1634
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:00,760
control what's happening and they don't

1635
01:08:03,570 --> 01:08:02,170
have all the answers themselves are

1636
01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:03,580
still trying to figure out what's going

1637
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:05,140
on out there yeah well you think you're

1638
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:07,630
right that's absolutely what's going on

1639
01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:09,970
they don't have all the answers and I'm

1640
01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:11,740
sure they would like to have them but

1641
01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:14,200
they're far from it so as you walked

1642
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:16,900
into these other investigations oh my

1643
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:19,450
gosh I they just sound stranger and

1644
01:08:24,030 --> 01:08:21,480
stranger so you you've had

1645
01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:24,040
investigations on these enormous birds

1646
01:08:28,260 --> 01:08:26,350
what about the flying hominids there's

1647
01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:28,270
been a lot of reports in Chicago have

1648
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:30,450
you had that out there in Pennsylvania

1649
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:33,130
yeah we have I'm just gonna tell you

1650
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:34,480
about one more because this is recent

1651
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:37,570
from one another researcher contacted me

1652
01:08:40,650 --> 01:08:39,220
very recently he's getting a lot of

1653
01:08:43,290 --> 01:08:40,660
reports of other parts along the

1654
01:08:46,349 --> 01:08:43,300
Chestnut Ridge as well but he got a

1655
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:46,359
report recently in early October of this

1656
01:08:54,150 --> 01:08:51,040
year up on the ridge and let me see if I

1657
01:08:55,860 --> 01:08:54,160
have it here okay and this was outside

1658
01:08:57,810 --> 01:08:55,870
of ligonier PA which is where we get a

1659
01:09:00,320 --> 01:08:57,820
lot of reports for years of all kind of

1660
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:00,330
weird things going on but this person

1661
01:09:06,690 --> 01:09:03,130
reportedly told them that they saw this

1662
01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:06,700
huge flying creature like a giant hawk

1663
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:09,670
with a 10 to 12-foot wingspan they saw

1664
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:12,130
it flapping its wings but heard no sound

1665
01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:13,690
even though the witness was close must

1666
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:16,060
be able to hear but the strange part of

1667
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:18,460
the story was a witness swears that the

1668
01:09:23,010 --> 01:09:20,770
bird was transparent and she could see

1669
01:09:25,770 --> 01:09:23,020
through the bird and that's just an

1670
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:25,780
experience a lot of the different weird

1671
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:27,970
cryptids I'm getting just like the Black

1672
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:30,130
Panther reports you know we all know

1673
01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:31,870
when we think about black pants we're

1674
01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:33,910
thinking about black Jaguar black

1675
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:34,540
Bluebird

1676
01:09:39,450 --> 01:09:36,880
I call this part of the world they see

1677
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:39,460
them up in New England they see them

1678
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:41,470
around here for years and years and

1679
01:09:46,890 --> 01:09:44,410
there's a lot of strange aspects to the

1680
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,900
sightings of Black Panthers for example

1681
01:09:51,090 --> 01:09:48,480
a lot of people don't know is on

1682
01:09:53,309 --> 01:09:51,100
occasion for example when you have an

1683
01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:53,319
outbreak say a Bigfoot in a particular

1684
01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:56,350
area sometimes you get reports of other

1685
01:10:01,230 --> 01:09:58,260
clips and showing up the same time very

1686
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:01,240
commonly Black Panther sightings occur

1687
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:03,370
during the same time Bigfoot is being

1688
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:05,650
seen and something a lot of people are

1689
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:07,630
not aware ever don't discuss there have

1690
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:09,460
been incidents with more than one

1691
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:11,650
cryptid are seen together

1692
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:14,410
so sometimes Bigfoot has been seen for

1693
01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:16,540
example with a black panther or other

1694
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:19,000
cryptid at the same time these are a lot

1695
01:10:23,550 --> 01:10:20,650
of things that people don't know or

1696
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:23,560
would prefer not to talk about it yeah

1697
01:10:28,980 --> 01:10:26,800
well it is a little overwhelming I think

1698
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,990
for a lot of people not our audience of

1699
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:31,360
course but most people in the world

1700
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:33,400
today to think about Bigfoot and then to

1701
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,230
think about another cryptic coming into

1702
01:10:39,630 --> 01:10:37,360
this reality through a nut through a

1703
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:39,640
dimensional portal it is quite

1704
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:41,770
overwhelming but it's great I mean we

1705
01:10:46,170 --> 01:10:43,390
love it because this is the stuff that

1706
01:10:48,210 --> 01:10:46,180
that we love to talk about Sheila's

1707
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:48,220
experienced these things ourselves and

1708
01:10:53,490 --> 01:10:50,820
have at times but now you have other

1709
01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:53,500
things that you've heard about you've

1710
01:10:58,020 --> 01:10:55,990
heard about the flying human hominis

1711
01:11:01,020 --> 01:10:58,030
tell us about that because that's been

1712
01:11:05,340 --> 01:11:01,030
huge in Chicago but you've also had that

1713
01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:05,350
in Pennsylvania mm-hmm yeah and yeah I'm

1714
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:07,150
aware of case around the country and

1715
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:08,050
around the world

1716
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:11,130
but probably one of our most interesting

1717
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:17,890
reports occurred in 2011 up in Butler

1718
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:20,680
County Pennsylvania north of Pittsburgh

1719
01:11:29,730 --> 01:11:24,640
and for a better term they now call it

1720
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:29,740
the Butler gargoyle and this was 2011 I

1721
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:31,600
interviewed this witness numerous I'm

1722
01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:34,090
he's very professional guy was our

1723
01:11:38,220 --> 01:11:35,860
business man was riding down our dark

1724
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:38,230
rotors night headlights caught something

1725
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:39,550
on the right side of the graph he

1726
01:11:42,990 --> 01:11:41,950
thought it was a deer he got closer turn

1727
01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:43,000
on his high-beams

1728
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:46,660
and all of a sudden this huge 8-foot

1729
01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:48,110
tall creature stands up

1730
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:51,350
the ground takes three big steps across

1731
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:54,320
the road and goes into the woods and the

1732
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,690
guy said to me he said people claim they

1733
01:12:00,459 --> 01:11:58,400
see Bigfoot he said this thing was not a

1734
01:12:03,010 --> 01:12:00,469
Bigfoot he said this thing was at least

1735
01:12:05,470 --> 01:12:03,020
eight foot tall but he said it was

1736
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:05,480
covered with smooth leather like skin

1737
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:08,090
does either dark tan or light brown

1738
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:10,010
he said the creature never looked at him

1739
01:12:14,169 --> 01:12:11,750
the only side from the left side

1740
01:12:16,689 --> 01:12:14,179
they had appeared to be flat but it was

1741
01:12:17,169 --> 01:12:16,699
kind of swept back like an aerodynamic

1742
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:17,179
helmet

1743
01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:19,880
he said the face was flat and the eyes

1744
01:12:24,669 --> 01:12:22,190
were not clearly defined but he thought

1745
01:12:26,830 --> 01:12:24,679
he might be pointed in the corner the

1746
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:26,840
ears on the left side were long and flat

1747
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:29,030
came up and back and pointed backwards

1748
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:30,080
like a flap

1749
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:32,330
he said the arms were muscular and a

1750
01:12:36,939 --> 01:12:34,159
little longer than that of a human but

1751
01:12:38,830 --> 01:12:36,949
it had claws instead of fingers he said

1752
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:38,840
the one trait that really stood out was

1753
01:12:43,390 --> 01:12:39,710
its legs

1754
01:12:45,250 --> 01:12:43,400
it had very muscular legs and he said

1755
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:45,260
the legs did not move like that of a

1756
01:12:46,930 --> 01:12:45,770
human

1757
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:46,940
they looked like they were bent

1758
01:12:52,270 --> 01:12:49,790
backwards he said he also saw would

1759
01:12:55,149 --> 01:12:52,280
appear to be wings on its back which

1760
01:12:57,070 --> 01:12:55,159
were tucked into the body where the wing

1761
01:13:00,010 --> 01:12:57,080
tips extending towards the side of the

1762
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,020
head and he went back at walked in front

1763
01:13:03,370 --> 01:13:02,239
of a big construction sign he went back

1764
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:03,380
at measures of sign it was eight feet

1765
01:13:08,890 --> 01:13:05,260
tall so it was a little taller

1766
01:13:11,169 --> 01:13:08,900
interestingly within days after this man

1767
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:11,179
reported this several other people in

1768
01:13:15,970 --> 01:13:13,489
that same area reported the sighting to

1769
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:15,980
the local bo are you investigating group

1770
01:13:19,660 --> 01:13:18,050
up there I'll read you one of the

1771
01:13:22,419 --> 01:13:19,670
statements from the day received this is

1772
01:13:23,950 --> 01:13:22,429
up near rhymers Berg the two witnesses

1773
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:23,960
were leaving the ice cream stand heading

1774
01:13:28,209 --> 01:13:26,690
down the road 30 feet away from them the

1775
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:28,219
creature walks out in front of the road

1776
01:13:31,870 --> 01:13:30,080
it was least nine feet tall had dark

1777
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:31,880
brown skin long horns and broad

1778
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:34,159
shoulders had a pointed head flat

1779
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:35,960
forehead pointed ears and would appear

1780
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:38,239
to be wings on its back the body was

1781
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:40,159
extremely muscular there were four

1782
01:13:43,330 --> 01:13:42,290
finger like claws in each hand the eyes

1783
01:13:45,550 --> 01:13:43,340
were squinted

1784
01:13:47,260 --> 01:13:45,560
but swept upwards at the corner as a

1785
01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:47,270
creature turned the whole body would

1786
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:49,190
turn the movement of the ornaments were

1787
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:50,960
not normal the mouth look like a slit

1788
01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:53,360
the wings look see-through like

1789
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:55,369
see-through mesh resembled wings on a

1790
01:13:59,950 --> 01:13:58,250
bat the claws were blackest calm the

1791
01:14:02,020 --> 01:13:59,960
witness state and this thing was

1792
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:02,030
straight from hell

1793
01:14:07,210 --> 01:14:05,210
Wow oh my goodness and you know what

1794
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:07,220
makes it so much more credible too is

1795
01:14:12,130 --> 01:14:09,770
when you have other witnesses in the

1796
01:14:13,810 --> 01:14:12,140
area that have seen it they don't know

1797
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,820
each other but they've had a similar

1798
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:15,440
experience so this sounds like a

1799
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:20,480
gargoyle it really does and and like I

1800
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,130
said even in recent weeks there have

1801
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:24,080
been numerous other strange reports

1802
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:26,450
coming in like I said a lot of sightings

1803
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:28,490
are occurring not only along the

1804
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:30,590
Chestnut Ridge but that's still very

1805
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:32,810
active with all kinds of other reports

1806
01:14:37,060 --> 01:14:34,010
came in from all over parts of

1807
01:14:38,590 --> 01:14:37,070
Pennsylvania Western PA some weird weird

1808
01:14:40,090 --> 01:14:38,600
sightings which we don't have time to

1809
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:40,100
get into if they go to my website they

1810
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:41,870
can read some of the latest reports

1811
01:14:45,820 --> 01:14:43,850
including it as very weird cryptid this

1812
01:14:48,610 --> 01:14:45,830
creature seen by a police officer on

1813
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:48,620
patrol in recent weeks and what is this

1814
01:14:54,610 --> 01:14:51,080
thing you said it's very strange give us

1815
01:14:56,710 --> 01:14:54,620
some answers of what it looks like well

1816
01:14:59,620 --> 01:14:56,720
what this police officer saw in the late

1817
01:15:00,850 --> 01:14:59,630
August he's on patrol and he patrols the

1818
01:15:03,190 --> 01:15:00,860
area all the time and he saw this

1819
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:03,200
strange light like a ball of light not

1820
01:15:07,420 --> 01:15:05,930
very bright ball low to the ground he

1821
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:07,430
knew there was no type of artificial

1822
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:09,250
lighting the area as he moves closer

1823
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:12,350
this light suddenly rises up or stands

1824
01:15:16,810 --> 01:15:15,170
up from the ground and he said it was a

1825
01:15:19,150 --> 01:15:16,820
weirdest thing he'd ever seen he told me

1826
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:19,160
he said the ball was actually the head

1827
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:22,010
of a strange being - look it'd be six

1828
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:24,530
feet taller and larger it was tall and

1829
01:15:29,380 --> 01:15:27,830
on a skeletal thin he said that he was

1830
01:15:30,910 --> 01:15:29,390
the opinion that when he first saw him

1831
01:15:33,370 --> 01:15:30,920
was lying on its belly on the ground

1832
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:33,380
with his head facing the road then it

1833
01:15:39,580 --> 01:15:36,790
stood up and faced out of the road and

1834
01:15:42,130 --> 01:15:39,590
the growth the glow was not real bright

1835
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:42,140
lit up the shoulder area the creature

1836
01:15:46,180 --> 01:15:44,210
turned to faced him that turned to the

1837
01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:46,190
left and he said with incredible speed

1838
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:50,390
it moved off and he said it was abnormal

1839
01:15:55,390 --> 01:15:52,910
the way of moved fastened anything I'd

1840
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:55,400
ever seen it was there that it was gone

1841
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:57,530
something very common with cryptids

1842
01:16:00,760 --> 01:15:59,210
people tell me this they're here and

1843
01:16:03,790 --> 01:16:00,770
they're going they appear they disappear

1844
01:16:06,130 --> 01:16:03,800
and I had this head was about eight to

1845
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:06,140
ten inches diameter ball shape but maybe

1846
01:16:10,210 --> 01:16:08,330
more of a posi egg shape the light

1847
01:16:11,980 --> 01:16:10,220
emitted to be dull white late

1848
01:16:13,630 --> 01:16:11,990
illuminator shoulder the top of the

1849
01:16:14,959 --> 01:16:13,640
chest and the section of the arms he

1850
01:16:16,850 --> 01:16:14,969
could see no hands

1851
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:16,860
Tesla could be about 18 inches across

1852
01:16:21,530 --> 01:16:19,260
the waist appear to be small but arms

1853
01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:21,540
are abnormally long the long limbs also

1854
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:24,300
look skeletal with no muscle mass the

1855
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:26,130
skin tone appeared to be dull grayish

1856
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:28,410
blue he could not see any facial

1857
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:30,480
features as the creature ran off he

1858
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:32,820
pulled us closer there on a spotlight on

1859
01:16:38,660 --> 01:16:35,190
the ground to see no evidence of it and

1860
01:16:39,979 --> 01:16:38,670
now interestingly I see just about a

1861
01:16:41,810 --> 01:16:39,989
week and a half two weeks ago another

1862
01:16:44,180 --> 01:16:41,820
witness called me who knew nothing about

1863
01:16:46,370 --> 01:16:44,190
this lives in another area of the county

1864
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:46,380
and described encountering a creature

1865
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,910
very very similar oh my gosh see this

1866
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:52,800
and it's getting stranger because this

1867
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:54,570
we don't even have a reference point for

1868
01:16:59,689 --> 01:16:57,210
this one this doesn't follow a lot of

1869
01:17:01,760 --> 01:16:59,699
the categories before now Stan you said

1870
01:17:04,970 --> 01:17:01,770
there's a movie out that you're featured

1871
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:04,980
in and people can get this from Amazon

1872
01:17:08,780 --> 01:17:07,199
and what is the name of this it's about

1873
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:08,790
the Chestnut Ridge I know you said

1874
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:10,890
before it sounds fascinating I can't

1875
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:14,280
wait to see it so the name of it is it's

1876
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:15,900
called the invasion on Chestnut Ridge

1877
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:19,290
it's my small town monsters you can go

1878
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:20,850
to the website small town monsters

1879
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:25,290
believe calm and it's available on the

1880
01:17:29,209 --> 01:17:27,330
download on Amazon right now you go to

1881
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:29,219
Amazon you can see it on there you can

1882
01:17:32,780 --> 01:17:30,570
rent it I believe where you can purchase

1883
01:17:35,810 --> 01:17:32,790
it from them as well but it's a very

1884
01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:35,820
very well-done documentary a lot of the

1885
01:17:40,580 --> 01:17:37,500
strange things that go on along the

1886
01:17:41,959 --> 01:17:40,590
Chestnut Ridge well I can't wait to see

1887
01:17:44,930 --> 01:17:41,969
it and I know our audience is going to

1888
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:44,940
go and see it as well and again for

1889
01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:47,010
people if you'd like to contact stand

1890
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:48,900
and purchase his books you can go to

1891
01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:53,610
Stan Gordon info that is Stan Gordon dot

1892
01:17:59,150 --> 01:17:56,520
info Stan we can't thank you enough for

1893
01:18:00,560 --> 01:17:59,160
an exciting hour and a half that feels

1894
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:00,570
like it went by in about two minutes

1895
01:18:04,220 --> 01:18:02,730
it's just not long enough you have so

1896
01:18:05,959 --> 01:18:04,230
much to share with us we've got to have

1897
01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:05,969
you back on the show your fantastic

1898
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:08,760
guests and we love hearing all of what

1899
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:11,130
you're so involved with and we're so

1900
01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:12,239
glad that you're in love with the

1901
01:18:17,450 --> 01:18:15,150
paranormal like we are just an amazing

1902
01:18:19,250 --> 01:18:17,460
show tonight thank you so much I'm gonna

1903
01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:19,260
kick everybody we'll be back with

1904
01:18:23,410 --> 01:18:22,100
another show we have the Karl higdon

1905
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:23,420
abductee

1906
01:18:27,790 --> 01:18:25,280
very little has been talked about

1907
01:18:29,649 --> 01:18:27,800
publicly we have Marjorie higden and her

1908
01:18:31,570 --> 01:18:29,659
husband Karl they're coming on the show

1909
01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:31,580
next week don't miss it until then

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01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:34,369
everybody we will see you on the blue